Countermove.

It seemed inevitable , but the streets are now not the sole possession of the paid progressives. In areas where the police are deliberately held back by the progressive politicians, the counter movement is now springing up.

It is not a good sign, as this can spin out of control quite easily. I would bet the anti progressive thugs group is not a paid group.

You can read more over at ace of spades in the ‘Backlash” post on 4/17/17.

 

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16 Responses to Countermove.

  1. DevereauxDevereaux says:

    There were inklings of this during the campaign. Trump tamped down some of it or there may well have been more head-banging.

    This could get a lot more ugly. The police are not doing anyone any favours by holding back.

  2. AvatarEThompson says:

    Sometimes I choose to focus on the details and here were two that disturbed me greatly:
    1. A woman punching a man in the face.
    2. A man punching a woman in the face.

    I’m trying to decide which image was more disturbing.

    Honestly, Millennials, get your act together; it’s a competitive world out there and you need to focus upon your studies (and I don’t mean Women’s Studies).

    This Boomer finds your behavior abhorrent and there was nothing in the 60s and 70s that remotely resembled college kids on a $50k annual budget punching fellow co-eds in the face.

    This video managed to offend me more than the tragedy at Kent State.

  3. 10 Cents10 Cents says:

    The war of words often leads to violence. We need to be smart and have our own press documenting what happens.

  4. DevereauxDevereaux says:

    This isn’t the war of words. This is the war of emotions. Words long ago lost their true meaning; now they’re just thrown out like spears to try to spike someone.

    Fascism and communism are basically the same thing, writ with out without nationalism. Benito Mussolini once stated he would be a “socialist” his whole life. He founded the brown shirts AND the term “fascisti” to describe his movement in Italy, mostly then made up of military vets of WWI. He was at the time the secretary of the Italian Socialist Party. He was thrown out of that party because he put Italy before the Internationale, the crowd run by Moscow.

    So the epithets of “Fascist” thrown at Trump are, at the very least, deeply ironic. More to the point, they are totally inaccurate. Being patriotic is NOT being a fascist – it’s simply being patriotic.

    • 10 Cents10 Cents says:

      Dev, I agree it is a war of Untrue Words. Orwell was ahead of his time.

    • AvatarEThompson says:

      “So the epithets of “Fascist” thrown at Trump are, at the very least, deeply ironic. More to the point, they are totally inaccurate. Being patriotic is NOT being a fascist – it’s simply being patriotic.”

      I would also note how disturbing is the obvious lack of education that many of these kids fail to get at some of the most expensive universities.

      Trump? Fascism? Communism? If students were ever encouraged to read Mein Kampft, Manifesto, or the Art of the Deal, they’d know the difference.

  5. AvatarEThompson says:

    Dev, I still think there are too many kids with too much time on their hands and most importantly, with NO adult direction from their parents or professors. I’d even go so far as to say the ‘adults’ have promoted this chaos.

    If I’d been caught punching men in the face while my father was paying mucho dineros for my tuition, I would have been jerked out of college and sent to a local community school in a minute.

    Kids don’t seem to be learning the consequences of their behavior as they look for jobs. The late Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg might have been intrigued, but few corps really are. Labor and corporate taxes are far too high these days to take risks with young dilettantes!

    Just for the record, I’d rather hire an intelligent, educated debutante than the above!

  6. drlorentzdrlorentz says:

    I don’t entirely agree that the counter movement is entirely a bad thing. They are challenging the progressives’ control of the streets. There is danger but also hope with the advent of the counter.

    For a different perspective, here’s an interview with Lauren Southern on the day of the Berkeley riot. She was in the thick of it. People like Ms. Southern give me hope. Her interview on the Rubin Report is also worthy of a listen.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbmjFD4KBjc

    • AvatarEThompson says:

      Counter movements against ‘progressives’ (i.e. regressives) are not bad things in theory but this physical violence, particularly between men and women has me concerned. If the genders (I only recognize two) feel free to take one another out, then as far as I am concerned, that is the end of civil society.

  7. drlorentzdrlorentz says:

    I share your concern, ET. The alternative is also concerning: that the streets *are* the sole possession of the paid progressives. Consider this: the progs are, at root, cowards. If they encounter significant resistance it’s possible that they will back off. Maybe not but it’s worth some risk.

    • AvatarEThompson says:

      I think we can both agree that our society is in trouble if what the MSM chooses to share with us is true with all of the people all of the time.

      I like to doubt the total case for negativism because…

      Trump won.

  8. BrentB67BrentB67 says:

    Liz, I think you are on to a key part of the issue. People working a job to support themselves do not have time for this kind of foolishness.

    Kids who are close to God do not have time for this foolishness.

    This is the result of Godless parents funding these young adults as though they were still 9 years old.

  9. AvatarEThompson says:

    “People working a job to support themselves do not have time for this kind of foolishness.”

    Brent, you just managed to neatly summarize a ‘supposedly’ complicated problem.

    I would only add that kids that are close to the wrath of their parents have no time for foolishness.

    I got into a great state university (U-Michigan) but for twice the price, I talked my father into sending me to Vanderbilt. If I had spent my time rioting and physically assaulting people there, I’m sure I’d be working at a 7-Eleven right now.

    Kid #2- my little bro- decided to transfer from Michigan to USC film school. The tuition there is positively absurd and the campus is not far from the scene of the Rodney King riots. My brother had no intention of pushing that envelope and hunkered down in the frat house and just studied. And studied some more…

    Neither of us “had” to work our way through school, but my father decided we should work every summer by the time we were in junior high school because it was the right thing to do. He never made us spend our own money but taught us how to invest our pitiful minimum wage paychecks. By the time I was old enough to purchase a house, my investments had grown enough to cover a small down payment.

    A comment from my father’s best friend who recklessly spoiled his children and unfortunately reaped the sorry results of that: “Jeez, Liz, you and are your brother are two tough kids.” (I’m thinking … What? We simply studied hard in school and went out into the world to work our a***s off.)

    My father, who had overheard this responded, “You’re damned right they are.”

  10. AvatarXennady says:

    Berkeley is in the heart of blue blue California- and the progs can’t even win a low-rent street battle there, where they have the deck stacked heavily in their favor.

    Pitiful. I dare say that is not a sign of their strength. California is the left’s American fantasy- a mostly disarmed populace and a police force they can tell to stand aside as leftist thugs club dissenters into silence.

    And yet they still got their hat handed to them. I suppose I shouldn’t put too much importance on a minor street battle but I do take it as a sign of just how badly they’ve managed to play their hand.

    Everyone knows how they started out 2009. Now, not only can they NOT win street fights- millions of leftists are shaking their heads in astonishment, as they roast in Hell- they can’t even win a special election for a House seat in a district Trump barely won, despite spending millions and facing the usual festival of Republican incompetence. Ten candidates, gop? What?

    I am a fan of the Howe/Strauss Fourth Turning theory, because it seems to fit events rather well. For example, I recall they that wrote that Fourth Turning-era presidents didn’t seek consensus but tended to deliberately highlight differences, to drive a solution.

    Obama surely did this, with his open borders, the fruitless gun control efforts, and Obamacare. All of these and more were pushed despite intense opposition from the public, which devastated the demonrat party and took it to its weakest point since ever. Sad panda.

    And now we have Trump. From the perspective of the left, I imagine that he is also highlighting differences and forcing a solution, in ways they dislike quite as much as sane people dislike Obama initiatives such as open borders and fast and furious. For example, working to stop illegal immigration and build a border wall.

    The key difference- I expect, and election results so far seem to confirm- is that the public is behind Trump and his policies.

    The left is facing a perfect storm. Not only do the 2018 Senate races look awful for them, but Trump is aborting their emerging democrat majority simply by running his mouth and convincing future democrats to stay in their own countries. But it’s even worse, because they HAD control of the government- and lost it, because their policies just aren’t popular enough to win most elections.

    All in all, Obama reminds me a bit of James Buchanan. Historian Kenneth M. Stampp wrote that he deliberately engineered the Dredd Scott decision, figuring it would end the slavery question. Highlighting differences, to drive a solution, etc.

    He did, just not the way he intended. Much like Obama.

  11. AvatarEThompson says:

    Loved your post, X. It cheered me up immensely and even better, my favorite barometer (the market) backed both of us up this week. I’d also add the aggressive stance toward the Syrians, Norks, and Iranians didn’t hurt either.

    These actions simply add more money to the coffers that build Tomahawk missiles and build up our national security.

    “The Decision is Mine.”

    I want to keep it that way.

  12. AvatarXennady says:

    “Loved your post, X. It cheered me up immensely and even better, my favorite barometer (the market) backed both of us up this week. I’d also add the aggressive stance toward the Syrians, Norks, and Iranians didn’t hurt either.”

    Thanks. The Fourth Turning is a great book everyone should read, as it provides an entirely different and more enlightening perspective on the problems we face.

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