17 Responses to 12 Minutes

  1. drlorentzdrlorentz says:

    He’s right to highlight lack of gratitude as an important marker of leftist thought. Dennis Prager had a video about that on his website a while back.

    The struggle against postmodernism has been going on for decades. My first encounter with it was the Sokal Affair.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair
    The interesting thing about Alan Sokal is that he has impeccable leftist credentials. I’m not sure that there are many leftists today, 20 years later, who would be interested in challenging postmodernism.

    After decades of a largely unsuccessful campaign against postmodernism we have the election of Trump (and Brexit to a lesser degree), which has done more to undermine cultural Marxist ideology than anything that happened over the previous 20 years. The main effect of the events of 2016 has been to open the Overton Window to allow the discussion to stray outside the narrow confines that the left has created.

    Prof. Peterson is exactly right and he gets deserved applause from the amen corner that make up his audience. But the sad fact is that people have been saying this stuff for years to *zero* effect. With respect to Prof. Peterson, he’s late to the party and preaching to the choir is not effective.

    Politics may be downstream from culture but the political bully pulpit is one way to influence the culture that circumvents the institutions (Hollywood, universities, journalism) that are under leftist control. This is the key point that the #Nevers simply don’t get.

  2. AvatarEThompson says:

    “After decades of a largely unsuccessful campaign against postmodernism we have the election of Trump (and Brexit to a lesser degree), which has done more to undermine cultural Marxist ideology than anything that happened over the previous 20 years.”

    Excellent observation because Trump is a member of neither party. Stay tuned for my next post re: Charles Krauthammer’s haughty article in Weekly Standard accusing Trump of rejecting “patriotism” for “nationalism.”

    Just for the record, I believe we have no shot at “winning” if we refute the principles and values of our Founders.

    Trump is the right guy at the right time.

    • drlorentzdrlorentz says:

      ‘Stay tuned for my next post re: Charles Krauthammer’s haughty article in Weekly Standard accusing Trump of rejecting “patriotism” for “nationalism.” ‘

      The pundit class have lost all credibility. With the exception of a few, such as VDH and Derb, they are all living in a bubble of irrelevance. Trump is truly a black swan event and they have no idea what to make of it.

      • DevereauxDevereaux says:

        Oh, they lost all credibility back when they posited Romney would win. What they’ve lost is all perspective. They have no idea what they are talking about.

  3. AvatarEThompson says:

    BTW, Centime, thanks so much for introducing me to Jordan Peterson. He is positively maniacal; I love that!

  4. Percival says:

    Nice video, 10¢.

  5. PencilvaniaPencilvania says:

    Just got to watch this – yes, excellent, thanks for posting, Dime. I didn’t realize ‘postmodernism’ was a thing, but his catalog of traits that are just cropping up everywhere in society is spot on. I can certainly see the rejection of the structure of western civ. The ingratitude is also especially visible, and ugly. In fact, it probably contributes a lot to the ugliness in modern art, as well as manners.

  6. RightAnglesRightAngles says:

    I love Peterson. I’ve never been more disappointed in any of the pundits as I am in Krauthammer.

  7. AvatarTempTime says:

    I really like the book recommendation at the beginning of his talk. I have a couple of 30-somethings in my family that are so bought into the whole “what’s wrong with socialism?” mentality, who will be very surprised come Christmas day when they open their gifts.

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