{"id":2520,"date":"2011-12-31T00:27:36","date_gmt":"2011-12-30T15:27:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/haakondahl.com\/blog\/?p=2520"},"modified":"2011-12-31T00:27:36","modified_gmt":"2011-12-30T15:27:36","slug":"ronpaulstiltskin-and-the-loughnertarians","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/balldiamondball.com\/blog\/ronpaulstiltskin-and-the-loughnertarians\/","title":{"rendered":"RonPaulstiltskin and the Loughnertarians"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Loughnertarians.<\/p>\n<p>Have you argued with any Ron Paul people? You may be familiar with that infuriating style of argument they use, where they don&#8217;t listen so much as they parse, and scan your words for opportunities to demand definitions. They construct non-sequitur syllogisms on the fly, rife with false dilemmas, and while you&#8217;re trying to understand what tortured, twisted point they&#8217;re attempting to make, they convince themselves that they&#8217;ve proven you wrong. Take that, etc.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s not conversation, and it&#8217;s not even argument. It&#8217;s a strange form of self-reassurance by talking to others, a delusion that if they just masturbate hard enough in public, we&#8217;ll all be converted. I figured out where I have previously heard this disturbing pattern of high-functioning mental derangement:<\/p>\n<p>Jared Loughner.<\/p>\n<p>I viewed\/read his YouTube materials as the events of that day unfolded. I thought I had better do so at the time, as they would likely disappear&#8211;a cursory check makes me think this has indeed happened, but I confess not to have looked very hard. I recall clearly the structures he used to make his &#8220;points&#8221;, which were crazy, as advertised. Not just wrong, but gravel-munching, clock-tower crazy.<\/p>\n<p>This is a link to a Christian Science Monitor article on some of <a title=\"Crazy Lough\" href=\"http:\/\/www.csmonitor.com\/USA\/2011\/0112\/Arizona-shooting-suspect-Jared-Loughner-5-of-his-strange-ideas\/4.-Logic-can-prove-things-that-sound-like-nonsense-to-everyone-else\">Loughner&#8217;s strangeness<\/a>.<br \/>\nIn particular, I direct your attention to strange ideas #4 (linked) and #5 (next page). Sound familiar?<\/p>\n<p>I wish to be clear: I am not pinning Loughner on Paul, or even on Paulism.<\/p>\n<p>Loughner was just plain crazy, and so far as any of us know, except of course for <a href=\"http:\/\/NOLINKYET\/?p=1865\">all of the mainstream media<\/a>, this particular craziness is not the product of a philosophy, but the a simple derangement. Somewhere in the interplay of his physical brain and his intangible thoughts, something went very wrong and kept getting worse.<\/p>\n<p>What I most pointedly AM SAYING is that the disturbing fraction of the Ron Paul people give me the creeps, and I think they&#8217;re very wrong, and getting worse.<\/p>\n<div class=\"pld-like-dislike-wrap pld-template-1\">\r\n    <div class=\"pld-like-wrap  pld-common-wrap\">\r\n    <a href=\"https:\/\/balldiamondball.com\/blog\/wp-login.php\" class=\"pld-like-trigger pld-like-dislike-trigger  \" title=\"\" data-post-id=\"2520\" data-trigger-type=\"like\" data-restriction=\"user\" data-already-liked=\"0\">\r\n                        <i class=\"fas fa-thumbs-up\"><\/i>\r\n                <\/a>\r\n    <span class=\"pld-like-count-wrap pld-count-wrap\">    <\/span>\r\n<\/div><div class=\"pld-dislike-wrap  pld-common-wrap\">\r\n    <a href=\"https:\/\/balldiamondball.com\/blog\/wp-login.php\" class=\"pld-dislike-trigger pld-like-dislike-trigger  \" title=\"\" data-post-id=\"2520\" data-trigger-type=\"dislike\" data-restriction=\"user\" data-already-liked=\"0\">\r\n                        <i class=\"fas fa-thumbs-down\"><\/i>\r\n                <\/a>\r\n    <span class=\"pld-dislike-count-wrap pld-count-wrap\"><\/span>\r\n<\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Loughnertarians.<\/p>\n<p>Have you argued with any Ron Paul people? You may be familiar with that infuriating style of argument they use, where they don&#8217;t listen so much as they parse, and scan your words for opportunities to demand definitions. They construct non-sequitur syllogisms on the fly, rife with false dilemmas, and while you&#8217;re trying to understand what tortured, twisted point they&#8217;re attempting to make, they convince themselves that they&#8217;ve proven you wrong. Take that, etc.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s not conversation, and it&#8217;s not even argument. It&#8217;s a strange form of self-reassurance by talking to others, a delusion that if they just masturbate hard enough in public, we&#8217;ll all be converted. I figured out where I have previously heard this disturbing pattern of high-functioning mental derangement:<\/p>\n<p>Jared Loughner.<\/p>\n<p>I viewed\/read his &#8230; <a href=\"https:\/\/balldiamondball.com\/blog\/ronpaulstiltskin-and-the-loughnertarians\/\"> Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr; <\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":34128,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[234],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2520","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-american-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/balldiamondball.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2520","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/balldiamondball.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/balldiamondball.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/balldiamondball.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/34128"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/balldiamondball.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2520"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/balldiamondball.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2520\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/balldiamondball.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2520"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/balldiamondball.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2520"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/balldiamondball.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2520"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}